Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs

jcb · **05-22-2005, 12:06 PM**

Please vote the poll and post any relevant information you might have.

jcb · **05-22-2005, 12:09 PM**

I think this one is odvious,,

Makes tests more difficult and greatly improves value of certs

North Wind · **06-10-2005, 07:20 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb

I think this one is odvious,,

Makes tests more difficult and greatly improves value of certs

i agree with you jcb 100%
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Headhunter · **05-22-2005, 01:18 PM**

There will be no change in my opinion, those questions can still be remembered and spread on the web so....
Only people who will be finding it difficult are the paper ones who will go in first without experience

BosonMichael · **05-22-2005, 02:23 PM**

They can be remembered, but not as easily as multiple choice regurgitation. Plus, it is easy for Microsoft to slightly change the requirements of the scenario (much easier than changing a multiple choice question), invalidating any memorization that has occurred.

That being said, the Microsoft scenarios seem awfully easy to me, especially since many of the icons and programs on the simulated desktop are not even clickable. In any event, the new simulations are a step in the right direction, even if they're not yet the complete solution.

taid · **05-23-2005, 12:24 PM**

I'm hedging but I think they will increase the value of the certs as it does take a little more skill to remember which icons to click.

Tinus1959 · **05-24-2005, 07:16 AM**

For people who know there stuff there will be no change or even the tests will be easier. When I perform a task, most of the time I know I'm correct because I will recognize the screen that is shown. If you have to memorize all screens to find the screen meant in the question, one could have a hard time doing so.

spyder357 · **05-27-2005, 07:19 PM**

I think the performance testing is great because it is "more real" then simply remembering information from a book. At the same time I agree with Tinus, for people who know their stuff it should make the certs even easier.

Overall though I think it will have little impact of the status of the certs.

CaptainRu · **05-28-2005, 03:43 AM**

As I see it it will make it more difficult for those who pass by trying to memorize questions, but for those really studying, it would make it much easier. Most of the time I know exactly how to do things, or where to look intuitively. It seems like this would eliminate any of the questions people feel ''tricked'' on.

ashwin · **05-28-2005, 05:35 AM**

It may be both:
Makes tests more difficult and greatly improves value of certs
There will be little change

This definitely has changes and so would improve SKILLS of an Administrator more. This proves how precise an admin is in detecting and troubleshooting tasks

View Poll Results: How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs
Makes tests more difficult and greatly improves value of certs	5	33.33%
There will be little change	8	53.33%
it will de-value certs	0	0%
Not sure??	2	13.33%
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05-22-2005, 12:06 PM	#1
jcb Windows Server 2008 R2 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,713 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs Please vote the poll and post any relevant information you might have.

05-22-2005, 12:09 PM	#2
jcb Windows Server 2008 R2 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,713 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs I think this one is odvious,, Makes tests more difficult and greatly improves value of certs

05-22-2005, 01:18 PM	#4
Headhunter Windows Server 2003 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 869 Thanks: 3 Thanked 80 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs There will be no change in my opinion, those questions can still be remembered and spread on the web so.... Only people who will be finding it difficult are the paper ones who will go in first without experience __________________ Koen CCSI #30501 CCNP CCIP CCVP CCSP CCDP Cisco Advanced Wireless LAN Field Specialist Cisco Unity Design Specialist Cisco IP Telephony Design Specialist JNCIS-ES JNCIA-ER JNCIA-EX MCSE MCSA:Messaging Hello, mother. I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper and it's not a toaster - Stewie Griffin

05-22-2005, 02:23 PM	#5
BosonMichael Site Ogre Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: near Nashville, TN Posts: 6,113 Thanks: 334 Thanked 465 Times in 388 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs They can be remembered, but not as easily as multiple choice regurgitation. Plus, it is easy for Microsoft to slightly change the requirements of the scenario (much easier than changing a multiple choice question), invalidating any memorization that has occurred. That being said, the Microsoft scenarios seem awfully easy to me, especially since many of the icons and programs on the simulated desktop are not even clickable. In any event, the new simulations are a step in the right direction, even if they're not yet the complete solution. __________________ BosonMichael MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCSE: Messaging, MCDST, MCDBA, MCTS, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CCNA Security, CCNA Voice, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ www.boson.com Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92

05-23-2005, 12:24 PM	#6
taid Windows 7 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Burghfield Common, UK Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs I'm hedging but I think they will increase the value of the certs as it does take a little more skill to remember which icons to click. __________________ "What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon." - GK Chesterton MCSE: Security Specialist on Windows 2000, MCSA Security Specialist on Windows 2000 and 2003, Security+, Network+, A+ Currently working on Bachelor of Science: Computer Science

05-24-2005, 07:16 AM	#7
Tinus1959 Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands. Posts: 4,969 Thanks: 180 Thanked 417 Times in 345 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs For people who know there stuff there will be no change or even the tests will be easier. When I perform a task, most of the time I know I'm correct because I will recognize the screen that is shown. If you have to memorize all screens to find the screen meant in the question, one could have a hard time doing so. __________________ There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary numbers and those who do not. Trainer is the most efficient job you could have: you sell your knowledge and still keep it yourself.

05-27-2005, 07:19 PM	#8
spyder357 Windows 98 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Winona, MN USA Posts: 142 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs I think the performance testing is great because it is "more real" then simply remembering information from a book. At the same time I agree with Tinus, for people who know their stuff it should make the certs even easier. Overall though I think it will have little impact of the status of the certs. __________________ MCSE\MCSA (2003), A+ [-------] Done! Thinking about a Cisco cert "If you want your computer to stay alive, don't install Windows 95"

05-28-2005, 03:43 AM	#9
CaptainRu Windows 95 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs As I see it it will make it more difficult for those who pass by trying to memorize questions, but for those really studying, it would make it much easier. Most of the time I know exactly how to do things, or where to look intuitively. It seems like this would eliminate any of the questions people feel ''tricked'' on.

05-28-2005, 05:35 AM	#10
ashwin Windows Vista Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Poll : How will performance-based questions impact the value of Microsoft certs It may be both: Makes tests more difficult and greatly improves value of certs There will be little change This definitely has changes and so would improve SKILLS of an Administrator more. This proves how precise an admin is in detecting and troubleshooting tasks __________________ <a href="http://ashwinkini.blogspot.com/"><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/ashwinkini.gif" style="border:0" alt="Ashwin's Blog"/></a> “When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous” “We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made” -Albert Einstein (1879 -1955) *I guess you are from:* *I am from:* ???? ???? ????! Incredible !ndia

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